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Re: Windows or Mac?

Postby Quaon » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:07 am

JD, can you really support apples selling tactic of directly mocking the PC in PC vs MAC commercials? It just makes them look desperate.
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Re: Windows or Mac?

Postby jd2kuk » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:16 am

The way they mock them in their big presentations is more amusing lol :lol:
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Re: Windows or Mac?

Postby heebyjeebys » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:21 am

yes it does kinda seem that apple are desprate. They are funny but the adverts are a very misleading.
PC's are not all about spreadsheets and boring documents that the adverts say they are, its just steriotyping a tiny part of a pc's userfulness.(i'm sleepy)
And macs do get viruses.
The annoying (regretably) UAC thing on vista is quite a smart idea if you think about it.
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Re: Windows or Mac?

Postby heebyjeebys » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:37 pm

and another point, pc can do EVERYTHING a mac can do and more.
there is a lot of things pc and do that mac can't.
for example: multi hardware configurations etc
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Re: Windows or Mac?

Postby heebyjeebys » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:27 pm

I have lot of support from people I know in the computer industry that macs are not good for anything apart from photos, and movies.
And that PC rules the roost for everything else.
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Re: Windows or Mac?

Postby jd2kuk » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:31 pm

PC's:
  • Don't have a solid audio driver, or a driver which supports the creation of hybrid audio devices
  • or have final cut or logic
  • They don't support AU plugins
  • And lack the ability to not need to restart all the time
  • They can't dual boot Mac OS and windows out of the box
  • (unless they run linux) Their operating systems contain hardly any open source code
  • Have a centralised place to look for support on both the hardware and software
  • Have as cool an interface as a mac

Macs have all of those things and more, which PC's, err- last time I checked, didn't and don't have...
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Re: Windows or Mac?

Postby jd2kuk » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:35 pm

In response to the second post, Macs are actually used in industry for film, audio, publishing and layout, scientific research/large scale supercomputing, education- the list goes on. And macs do those jobs well. So well in fact, that for many industries, they are the de facto standard.

And they're good for movies and photos. ;)
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Re: Windows or Mac?

Postby heebyjeebys » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:48 am

jd2kuk wrote:PC's:

[*]And lack the ability to not need to restart all the time

Macs have all of those things and more, which PC's, err- last time I checked, didn't and don't have...

do you know why pc needs so many restarts? (the situation has vastly improved)
because of pc's multi hardware configuration design and archtecture, all drivers etc are loaded on startup. There are some things that load when things are plugged in but some have to be loaded from startup, eg video drivers, otherwise it reverts to VGA mode which works without no drivers.
sound needs to be loaded on startup
and in responnse to the comment about a solid audio driver, that comes with the manufacturer. the windows driver is generatic, providing only basic functionality :evil:
Logic is only for mac, simply because it has not been ported to windows yet.
scientsits use pc a lot too, they only use mac because they don't want to fix a small problem on their pc that they don't know how to fix etc (aka, they are CRAP at computers). PC is used in astronomy.
pc can do way more than mac
//edit * if you use the manufactures audio driver, you get full functionaility. windows only generalises with its drivers.
I was half asleap when i wrote the rest :D
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Re: Windows or Mac?

Postby heebyjeebys » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:07 pm

Mac ain't that simple to use...... Some things are over complicated.
Do you know what you have to press to do a screenshot on a mac? Shift + Apple button (that what i call it) + 3 or 2 which takes a selection. The mac then puts it on the desktop.
And to do this on pc. you only have to press 1 button then past it into something.
Macs are bad.
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Re: Windows or Mac?

Postby jd2kuk » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:24 pm

PC's don't support taking a specific screenshot area out of the box. Macs do. And the only reason that it happens to be so easy on a PC, is that IBM compatible keyboards have an antiquated key, which microsoft decided would take screenshots.
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